Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Free audio post production by alphonic.com.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: Hey, welcome to the Grace House podcast. We're excited about this episode on Brian Phillips. Gen X.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: What's up, guys? I'm Emiliano Romo.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: And I'm Gen Z. Yeah, Emmy is for short. Right? Yep. Yeah. Cool. So it's really important in the kingdom of God. We want to talk about this today when I want to learn a little bit from Gen X or, or not Gen X. Gen Z. Gen Z. I want to learn from Gen Z and I want to emphasize on this episode how important it is for men to pour into the next generation, pouring into our families, our communities, and how important it is for Gen Z. You know, when I was his age, it, it's important to cross pollinate. It's important to. I always had mentors at least a generation up from me and I always encourage younger guys to do at least a generation or two because you want to learn from their wisdom. There's a reason why their hair turns gray. It's because they know a few things. They've been around a little bit, they've been kicked around. They're good warriors, you know, so, so. Hey, there it is. Welcome to this episode of discussion between Gen X and Gen Z. And so Emmy, Emmy has a special privilege because he's dating the founder of Grace Ops daughter, which would be me. He's, he's dating my, my daughter Alexi. And he lives in Texas.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:28] Speaker B: Yeah. So tell us about yourself.
[00:01:30] Speaker A: Well, I live in Houston, Texas. I'm a, I'm 19 years old.
I'm Mexican. Yeah.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
And yeah. So what was your background like, faith wise? Let's just jump into that background faith.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: I was raised Catholic, but I didn't, we didn't really practice a religion. It was more of like, just pray whenever things get bad. Believe in God, have faith in God. But it was never like I had to practice it like Catholic religion. We, we didn't really go to church every Sunday.
I mean, we did when we were younger, but then when we moved over here to the United States, it wasn't really like a. We didn't really practice it, but we always had that faith in God. Yeah.
[00:02:11] Speaker B: So you had this knowledge of God?
[00:02:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:02:16] Speaker B: Kind of a, a religion. Pray when things get bad.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:21] Speaker B: When, when do you think? You know, when did you think things shifted for you? Because that's not really what Jesus calls us to.
[00:02:28] Speaker A: Right.
[00:02:28] Speaker B: You know, to just kind of keep him at a distance, use them like a lucky charm. And that's what you were raised in, right? All of us kind of get raised in some different. But this is why we want to point this out. It's not.
When did. When do you think things shifted gears for you?
[00:02:42] Speaker A: I think when I. I think honestly, when I met your daughter Lexi, I feel like she really helped me get closer to God. You know, she encouraged me to go to church every Sunday or whenever I could. She encouraged me to read the Bible more. She. She just helped me get closer to him. And I seen her faith and how she, like, just the way she was with God, I just really wanted that. So I think that's what really made me get closer to him.
[00:03:10] Speaker B: Well, that's cool. But the cool thing about your. What I respect about your.
Your faith journey is that. Yeah. So you had the encounter of my daughter and. Yeah, my daughter. I tried to teach my children how to have a relationship with God and then kind of back off a little bit and see what they do with it. Yeah, but, you know, so she challenged you in some ways in your faith, but you. You responded, right? You didn't. You didn't just talk? You didn't just like, hey, I'm going to get around to that. Or. Or isn't that neat? My girlfriend's excited about Jesus. You know what I mean?
[00:03:38] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. I kind of. Because it's not like, oh, I was just doing it for her. I def. I did. I wanted to do it for myself, you know, I just want to do it for her.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: So what. I mean. So you found a church?
[00:03:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I found a church. It's called Powerhouse back in Texas. It's a really good church. I like it. They teach a lot of good things. I mean, they teach from the Bible. They just read Bible verses and they just go. They just talk about the Bible verses.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: Yeah, that's cool. And so kind of like I did Sunday and kind of like. And kind of. We do that in the gray subsculture. I know that you.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I appreciate that you've liked our.
[00:04:06] Speaker B: Values and it's really good merchandise.
You were. He went on a range day with me yesterday. Shot a gun for the first time.
[00:04:13] Speaker A: Yeah, it was pretty.
[00:04:14] Speaker B: That was pretty cool. Yeah. It made you a little nervous.
[00:04:16] Speaker A: Yeah, a little nervous.
[00:04:17] Speaker B: I mean, it's kind of weird the first time you do something like that.
[00:04:19] Speaker A: Yeah, it is pretty weird. It was my first time, too, but it was pretty cool. It felt cool, too.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:24] Speaker A: But, yeah, it was. It was a cool time. Good time.
[00:04:26] Speaker B: Yeah. New experience. So. Yeah.
What do you think about Gen Z? Your generation? Where do you think they are in regards to their faith. What are some pros and cons you see in your generation?
[00:04:39] Speaker A: I'll start with the cons. The cons are.
I mean, they're kind of lost, honestly. All this like LGBTQ stuff, it's like leftists forcing all this liberal stuff. It's kind of just.
It's not good because it's, I mean, it's not, it's not a real thing. It's just two genders.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: Do you, do you feel like the majority of your generations cave that way or you think it's like 5050 or.
[00:05:03] Speaker A: I honestly.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: What do you think?
[00:05:04] Speaker A: 50, 50.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: Honestly, you feel that way?
[00:05:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I really think it's 50 50.
I mean. Yeah, it's just. Yeah, it's really evil and good. Honestly, they're just.
Yeah, I don't know, I just. It's a lot of like confused people out there, you know, a lot of evil stuff. You know, just. They're not, they, they, they probably just haven't heard about God and don't know the Bible or they're just ignorant and they don't want to know the real truth.
[00:05:29] Speaker B: Well, you've, we've come through a. I mean a long time.
Many many years, but more so in the last four to 10 years where there's just been an. On all out assault on gender, on masculinity. Right. Like young guys, like you were told if you act masculine, that's toxic.
[00:05:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: You know that you, you, we basically wanted you to be a soy boy or some type of beta male. Like just, just kill all the mask, you know, like, don't compete, don't be alpha, don't be, don't try to get the prettiest girl. You know, just, just sit back. Your. You know, your world's not going to be like your parents or your grandparents. You're going to suffer. It's not going to be the same. Because this country is so terrible. It needs to pay the piper now because we're all like greedy, you know what I mean? Like that messaging and it just RAM brought it down and, and yeah, I mean, I could go on and on about that, but. So you feel you're on the other end of that receiving?
[00:06:24] Speaker A: Yeah, no, you're definitely right. Like coming like growing up in public schools too, that's. They encourage that and everybody around that just, they just encourage all of that. It's insane how it just, they put that in you.
[00:06:37] Speaker B: It's crazy. Even in Texas. Yeah, even in Texas.
I mean, I live in Illinois, so I would Expect it. Yeah. No, if you said that in Illinois school. So you're saying in Texas, where are you from again?
[00:06:50] Speaker A: Houston.
[00:06:50] Speaker B: So it's Houston. I think it's even in. Even in big old Texas.
[00:06:55] Speaker A: It's insane. It's. It's everywhere, dude.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: Because liberalism is on the increase in Texas.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. I think what Dallas. Austin is a left. It's a blue city.
[00:07:05] Speaker B: Well, Austin's definitely blue.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:07] Speaker B: Austin.
[00:07:08] Speaker A: I don't think Houston is a blue, though. It might be a red. I don't know. But. But.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: No, but.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: But.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: See, this is. You bring up a good point, because we didn't really talk about all these talk points. We just said we'd talk about pros and cons. We didn't go into all the details. So when you're bringing this up, it makes me. It. I'd say it right now. I said, I think on the last podcast, when I judge Joe on that. Trump's changing things at the top, at a national level, federal level. But we're still losing the battle. The grassroots, meaning the schools, right?
[00:07:37] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:07:38] Speaker B: The schools still have these lgbtq, blm. All that stuff.
[00:07:41] Speaker A: All that stuff flags up, too. It's great.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. My daughter's school, my elementary. Well, she's junior high. Ellie. You know, we go to her school.
[00:07:49] Speaker A: And that's still really young, though. That's. That's not even a teenager.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: I know, but the first thing you walk in right now is Black History Month, which, again, you know, I hate that I even have to balance the fact that I'm not racist. I don't see. I'm colorblind. I mean, all the things that the left would say, oh, see, those are all ear marks. And you're such a.
[00:08:05] Speaker A: Black History Month is. It's history. You wouldn't. You shouldn't have to, like, separate black history from history. It's history you don't have to have.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: Coming from Emmy.
[00:08:13] Speaker A: Yeah. And I mean, like, it's for every gender, too. I mean, Jewish people went through a bunch of things, and they don't have a Jewish one.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: I agree.
[00:08:20] Speaker A: So.
[00:08:21] Speaker B: So, yeah. So I feel like we need to. We really got a lot of hard work to do over the next two, three years of taking back school boards, putting the pressure on schools in a nice way. Like, hey, take this stuff down off the walls. It doesn't belong here. Like, I think anything that's LGBTQ or BLM is propaganda hanging on the walls. That puts a pressure on young people. Right? Yeah. What does it teach you? More than Anything teaches you to shut your mouth, doesn't it?
[00:08:45] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:08:46] Speaker B: Just shut up. Just ignore it. Just be quiet.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: It really does. No, it seriously does, though. It. It's. It makes you just not feel like you have a voice. Makes you just want to follow what.
[00:08:56] Speaker B: They say just because you just don't want to hear about it, you know, it's exhausting.
[00:09:00] Speaker A: And if you speak up against it, everybody just attacks you. It's. They call it a toxic masculinity.
[00:09:07] Speaker B: Well, and then you take the concept of the end of the church culture and how confusing is the church culture that attacks you for just saying things like this, this and this are sins.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: You know what I mean?
[00:09:17] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:09:18] Speaker B: Like sexual morality is a sin. That includes homosexuality. That includes pornography. That. I mean, then the overeating is a sin. Right. Like, I think that's the greatest sin on the planet is how much sugar we consume. I mean, we're destroying ourselves. I mean, you know, those are things. We can't pick on one thing and not all of them. Right. Like, I'm not going to pick on just the things that I don't struggle with.
[00:09:36] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:09:36] Speaker B: You know, it's kind of funny. But. Yeah.
What else? What else is in your. You said we're talking pros and cons.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: So we can get some. Those are some comments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess I'll talk about pros. I mean, I feel like, like I was talking to you about the other day, I feel like social media does help a lot with that, you know, I guess starting it, starting with Christian faith, maybe not the right way. I mean, definitely not the right way. I feel like you should probably start with the Bible, not just go on like Internet and get your sources from there.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:10:09] Speaker A: But it does help, I guess it does start that, like, faith.
So whenever you start. You really want to start strengthening that faith. You start reading the Bible, you start going to churches, you start creating that, you know, that bond with God, that relationship with Christ. And I feel like, I feel like. Yeah, I feel like social media does help. So I feel like that would be a pro. Maybe another pro.
Another pro by my generation is probably, well, that saying that says, strong man create good times, good times create weakness. So I feel like, I feel like.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: We'Re weak, man, hard times.
[00:10:48] Speaker A: So I feel like we're in those hard times right now. I feel like hard times are going to create strong man.
[00:10:52] Speaker B: Yeah, we're kind of coming through. Yeah, we're getting next phase.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: So I feel like hopefully, I feel like that would be a Problem.
[00:10:58] Speaker B: And you know what's cool about that? That you brought that up. Since Trump became president, they haven't had to advertise for military because the amount of people joining the military has been, like, astronomically, like, I don't even know the numbers say, like a thousand or 5,000% higher. I mean, it's just been off the charts.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:11:17] Speaker B: So this. The strong men are getting developed now.
So, I mean, I think young people like you are, like, they want something valuable to fight for. I think it was interesting if, like, the whole concept of, like, when. When Musk decided to, like, go all in with Trump was when he got the assassination attempt in his ear shot and he saw him say, fight, fight, fight. So there's this whole concept of, like, Trump represents, like, a rebellion against the system.
[00:11:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:46] Speaker B: In a good way. And it makes younger guys, like, you.
[00:11:49] Speaker A: Want to be like that.
[00:11:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Want to be a healthy, masculine guy and. And fight the good battles. Fight the good fight.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: Is that you would agree with that?
[00:11:58] Speaker A: Exactly what I. Yeah, that's exactly what I think. I think.
[00:12:01] Speaker B: Now, what do you think about your generation in terms of, like, values? Okay. So, yeah, maybe there's some weakness. Maybe they've caved, but I don't think that's because they're gen zers. I think that's because they've been indoctrinated. And I think the indoctrination just has to break. That spell kind of has to break. And, yeah, some of them might be permanently damaged. It's a terrible thing.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: Right.
[00:12:21] Speaker B: But what do you think about, like, their values? Like, do you think where. Where are they when they lean towards, like, morality and, like, know, just doing. Doing. Right.
[00:12:32] Speaker A: And honestly, I feel like right now, I feel like also social media just got us in a chokehold. I don't think so.
[00:12:38] Speaker B: So you're saying social media is good and bad?
[00:12:40] Speaker A: It's also bad. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like what you choose.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: Choose to do with it, Right?
[00:12:45] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Because it's also where we got or only fans pornhub, all that sexual stuff that's out there, which is crazy, dude. That's an onslaught. It should be that probably every man listening to this. I mean, the eye gate is a. I mean, there's a battle of the eye gate. I mean, you're. It's a battle, the I gate.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: And I feel like social media has us in like. Like, they have almost like a control, you know? And, like, it's just. It's so, like, powerful at times because I Mean when you want it to be you, when you, I mean you're honestly in control. So you could just scroll past. But I mean if you have no control, no self control, it'll grab control of you and it'll lead you to a lot of evil things.
[00:13:29] Speaker B: When I also think it's healthy to draw boundary lines like have downtime off time.
[00:13:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:36] Speaker B: That's why I think biblically, Sabbath is so important. So like, you know, I'm mixing some things up right now. But like you're so for you when you talk about the Bible and how, so how you know on social media or online, the Internet can help you. Yeah, it can. It can also hurt you in some ways. That's why I think a gen Z and a gen X or even a gen Z and a baby boomer relationship is powerful. When you're, and when you get to be in my age and up, you're gonna know. So since, since I was about your age when I started my walker Christ from some a little over 30 years into this. So I've got 30 years of Bible reading, 30 years of studying the Bible in a community, 30 years of just hard work. And so I can pour that into you. And that's actually the biblical model.
[00:14:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: It's not to go lone ranger off on your own.
[00:14:28] Speaker A: Right, right, right.
[00:14:29] Speaker B: Learning because you can get deceived.
[00:14:31] Speaker A: Yeah. You need a mentor or you can.
[00:14:33] Speaker B: Get like, you can get an idea about the bound and blow it up so big that it becomes bigger than the Bible.
[00:14:37] Speaker A: You know what I mean?
[00:14:38] Speaker B: Where, where's a good father type or mentor type or older generation coach type could go? Well that's a great point, son, but it does, doesn't work like that.
Bring it back here and stay focused on, let all of it blow up, not just one piece of it.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:53] Speaker B: So how's that gone for you? Your journey with Christ? I mean, I mean you've got a good church, you got great stuff you've plugged into. You've got my daughter and you've been reading the Bible with her. I know.
[00:15:01] Speaker A: I mean I feel like it's, it's obviously not perfect, you know, but I feel like it's been going really good. I've been getting stronger with my faith. Yeah. My church does help a lot. Reading the Bible does help a lot. Grace ops does really help a lot too. I really like what they teach in their culture and just everything about it. It's, it's really something good. And I feel like, yeah, I'm getting closer and stronger with God, every single day.
[00:15:26] Speaker B: Well, you got anything else on your gen? Generation or generation? I feel like we've done cons. What about. Have we done pros yet? Any pro.
[00:15:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I think probably done some pros. Yeah, some pros. But, yeah, I feel like, like, yeah, I mean, there. It's like a mixed feeling about my generation. I feel like it could either go south or it just. I don't know. But I do feel like, I feel like we're heading to stronger time, stronger men, and we're getting rid of. We're, we're staying. Like, how could I say this? I guess we're like, yeah, we're getting stronger.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: And I would just say from a Gen Xer. So, you know, I wasn't really raised in church and people listen to the podcasts, may or may not know my story or remember hearing in different episodes, but I gave my life to Christ when I was about 17, and it radically changed the trajectory of my whole life. Like, it changed everything. Right. So, you know, sitting here with you, another, you know, you're actually two generations for me because we get the millennials and then you. Right, right, right. Yeah. Which it was interesting because when we were talking yesterday about this episode, I was looking up like, Gen Z ages, and I'm like, I realized all my daughters.
I called Kaylee yesterday. I'm like, do you know you're a Gen Z? This was funny. But I think, yeah, I think there's, there's, there has to be a cross pollination.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: Would you.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: So my generation, you know, we got the world handed to us from the boomers, and you're kind of getting the world handed to you from Gen Xers. You know, most millennials aren't. They're kind of in leadership, but not fully. And so no one does it perfectly. And I always say this, that I won't quit church culture until God does.
You know what I mean? And that doesn't mean that God, he doesn't approve of everything in church. Obviously, in the church has a black eye because it's run by people and it's got, it's got. You know, there's a lot of churches out there that just quite frankly suck. And they're not biblical and it's terrible and they're a bad witness and they're apostate and it's. But that's happening. Like the tares and the wheat all comes up together like the scripture says. And then God in the end, kind of like separates it all. So we have to maintain poise. We have to Maintain passion. I have to maintain what I'm called to do. Put my hand to the plow and just keep working. And that's kind of what I've been doing faithfully all these years. And that's what I model for your generation. You know, it's faithfulness. I want to hand you a better version of the church than I was handed. And, and you know what, you're going to be able to pick it apart and be like, oh, this was good. That's not, you know, this is cool. That's bad. But then you're going to have to run with handing. When I say church, I'm talking about the aspect of community.
[00:18:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:18:04] Speaker B: You know, I'm not just talking about, I don't know. It's kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of an interesting. Russell. Because people, a lot of people have grown to hate organized religion.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:15] Speaker B: So they quit anything that looks like a bunch of people meeting a building.
[00:18:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: Some people will quit that to go meet in a house. And when I meet the house church guy and him and I have a lunch or coffee, I'll go, why do you hate organized religion? Oh, this. He just goes down his list and I. And then I'll just turn it back on him and go, well, what time do you meet?
And he tells me, well, what location you meet at? You know, do you take an offering? Do you, do you have a game plan? I go, sounds pretty organized. It's just in a different building. It's just not in a building that's in a house. We're kind of doing the same thing, homie. You know, you're just. But I get it. I mean, I understand. I guess maybe what they're really trying to say is they don't like consumer driven Christianity, you know, the circus show kind of thing. I don't know.
[00:19:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:02] Speaker B: I don't have it all mastered, but I am trying to build a better version of what I was handled handed so that I can. We can hand it off to your generation. So on one hand, I apologize to your generation going, hey, forgive us where we bomb. Now on the other hand, it's like, hey, I'm still bleeding in the arena and I'm still working on it.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And I feel like that's just how it's going to be. Well, not always, but we're going to get better each and every single generation, hopefully.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: Yeah. So what, what has helped you as we kind of close out? What are you passionate about in your early days? With Christ that you would like, pass on. Like what, what stands out to you? Like one thing, two things about Christ, like maybe an aspect or something about his character or something about David's story or like what has kind of stuck out to you where you're like, this inspires me, motivates me.
[00:19:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel like that he never leaves. Even after every single time you mess up repeatedly, he's always there, always there, handing, handing you his hand, always there for you. Obviously he wants you to be transformed, but he doesn't just want you to stay the same, but he's always there to help you. Every single time. He's never going to leave you. And he's every single time after you mess up, he's always going to be there. I think that's the best thing ever. Like, it's just beautiful how he's never going to leave you. But obviously you need to be transformed because he's not always going to be happy with you. And you know, he's not always going to be like, oh, here's my hand. You know, whenever you need it, it's unlimited forgiveness. But you also need to repent and transform your life because there's going to be a day where it's going to be judgment day. And obviously if you haven't repented, you haven't transformed your life, you're not going to, you know, you're not going to make it. Even though he has unlimited forgiveness, you.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: Know, look at you preaching, man. I like it. Well, I mean, you're summarizing the gracehop's message, which Paul says, don't use grace as a license to sin. And Titus is teaching us in the book of Titus is teaching us that grace is like a trainer. It's the operations of God's grace to help us to renounce ungodliness and to renounce. And godliness means that I make a formal declaration with my mouth and it's to me, renouncing sin, you know, renouncing godliness and worldly passions. So we're drawing a line.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:10] Speaker B: And that's not a one and done. Yeah, you might have to do that every day. You might have to do it two or three times a day. You've got to stay sober minded, the scripture says. And that's why we have to have community. That's why we're going to have one another. And that's why we have vulnerability. Vulnerability is a hard thing. And we're talking to a bunch of guys, mostly men here. And I'm hoping more and More moms and family members are coming into this talk. But yeah, vulnerability is a hard thing to let the wall down.
[00:21:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it really is. You know, he transformed and changed that old lifestyle we used to have to whole new lifestyle. And it's. It's hard, but it's worth it.
[00:21:42] Speaker B: It's cool. We're excited.
[00:21:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm really excited.
[00:21:44] Speaker B: Go back to Texas, tear it up. I know you're planning on being a dentist.
[00:21:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I really, I really want to do that.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: He's got some idea of a more longer term future.
[00:21:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I want to create my own.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: Yeah, but you got to talk to me about that. We didn't talk yet. I'm. I mean, you know. Oh, I'm sorry. We're doing this on camera.
[00:22:00] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I'll definitely have that talk.
But yeah, you know, hopefully all that happens and I pray all that stuff happens and I mean, either ways, I. I trust God.
[00:22:10] Speaker B: Yeah, there you go.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: Any plan that he has with me, I'll follow it. No matter. No matter if it means I won't be a dentist or. It doesn't matter. I'll always follow.
[00:22:18] Speaker B: That's right, man. Hey, I was planning on being a Marine. I had the option of being a Marine or a professional bowler. You've seen me bowl. Yeah. Oh, I can bowl. Really?
[00:22:27] Speaker A: He could have been. Yeah, he definitely could still be a pro.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe that's, that's a stretch, but, but nonetheless though, when I gave my life to Christ, it was within three to six months. I felt this burning for like what I do now and I don't, you know, so anyway, that's a whole other talk.
[00:22:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: But I. It's. It's good, it's good to hear. It's refreshing. So thanks for sharing your heart first from Gen Z. Thank you. And yeah, from Gen X, I'm hoping, hoping we're going to continue to work hard on passing on something better to you.
[00:22:55] Speaker A: Definitely.
[00:22:56] Speaker B: So. Well, hey, stay the course with your faith, man.
Well, as we close out, we're going to pray. Yes, sir. Father, we love you. I thank you for Emmy. Pray that you bless him, keep him. Cause your face to shine upon them. Lord, I thank you for his story and his life transformation that's unfolding in the last year or two. Thank you. That he's. He's a bold witness and he's hungry for you and he longs to just simply be with you and to learn about you. So Father, help all of us on this podcast listening to just draw near to you to remember to be sober minded. To be about transformation. To be about drawing lines and renouncing the powers that we once yielded to and reminding ourselves and the circumstances we face that we belong to you. And it's your authority and your power and your lordship that rules and reigns over us. So, Father, we pray you bless this episode. Help it touch hundreds of thousands of hearts. In Jesus name, Amen.
[00:23:52] Speaker A: Amen.
[00:23:53] Speaker B: Hey. Until next time, Live Upright.
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