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Speaker 1 00:00:08 Hey, Brian Phillips here with Steve castle. Welcome out to the Grace House podcast. We're going to be talking about the state of the kingdom address. We're actually just returned from our trip to Washington DC. We were at the Trump rally, and we want to give you our version of the story before we do that. I'd love to invite you to subscribe to this podcast. Share it with your friends. Get on the grease ups website, grease sops.net. Look at the five-star charts. Start overviewing the language in the charge that we're laying out there to men
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Speaker 1 00:00:44 Email subscription. We'd love to have everybody connected to us on all the different avenues that we have in our social media. You can find us on all social media platforms at gray SOPs, two 12. Well, Steve is good to be with you today, bro. This is, we had a crazy trip, man. We just decided like we weren't even planning on going. Yup. And it was like Monday night. I'm like, dude, do you want to go? We're thinking about leaving tomorrow.
Speaker 2 00:01:07 There's still, uh, we're still a little sleep hangover even here. Yeah. I mean, so today is just so everybody knows. So today is the eighth and uh, so the, the Trump rally was on the sixth or the Washington, whatever you want to call it. It was on the sixth and today's the eighth we left at. Um, I got up at four o'clock in the morning on the fifth. We drove, we were down at the Trump. Uh, we were down at the, at the Washington monument. Um, I at 7:00 AM in the morning on the sixth and we were, we did not get back to our hotel until it was eight or nine o'clock at night.
Speaker 1 00:01:44 My watch I'd walked 23,000 steps. So we did 10.5 miles.
Speaker 2 00:01:49 Yeah. It was like 11 or 12 miles of walking and it was intense. And, but what I'm saying is that entire circle, um, it was, we left super early in the morning, the day before we were there all day on the sixth, it took us all day hours. It took us about 14 hours to get home yesterday. And so we're yeah. The reason I'm saying that is because we want you to know like how committed we are to make sure that the hours of driving. Yeah, it was, it was, it was probably over that. Tom drove. We wrote Tom, Tom, Tom blessed us. But the point is I want, I want these guys to hear, like, we are absolutely committed to making sure that you know, that we, we are doing everything we can to empower you, to give you the opportunity to have the action of grace manifesting in your lives.
Speaker 2 00:02:33 And even though we have some, you know, some physical tiredness or, or jet lag or whatever you want to call it and that's going on in us, that is not going to dissuade us from doing what we need to do in order to empower, um, and empower our world to live righteous, upright and godly in this present world. And we're, we're willing to push through this, which is a characteristic that we all need to embrace in the kingdom of God, which is it doesn't matter how you feel, screw your feelings. If you've got things to do, you need to do it. And especially for you guys out there and I don't care how you feel your marriage is important. I don't care about how you feel your kids are important. I don't care how you feel. I'm being a godly man and, and going upstream against the curtain, uh, against the Colts.
Speaker 1 00:03:14 Sure. The current, current culture, current modern day narrative
Speaker 2 00:03:18 Going upstream. I don't care if it doesn't feel good, right? That's the whole point is that we've, we've literally developed an entire, uh, group of an entire generation of people that say, well, I'm only going to do things that feel good. That, that, that Steve, can you bring me a puppy dog? I mean, we, I know you're gonna,
Speaker 1 00:03:36 And at the same time, I know we're not saying totally ignore your feelings or stuff. Them, we're just saying manager feelings in a way that they don't stop you. They lead you. Right.
Speaker 2 00:03:46 We're what we're doing today. I mean, we don't feel like doing this, but we have a passion. There's a fervency that's on the inside of us. That's greater than the lack of sleep.
Speaker 1 00:03:55 Yeah. Grease ops is Titus two 12. So Greece trains us to actually renounce ungodliness. And that's what we're about to do in this state of the kingdom and dresser were, we were in DC. We were there. We're tired. We're pushing through, but we were there. We, we were, we were at the rally. Let's just kind of walk through the day. I mean like, so we were at seven in the morning. We get there, there, there were so many people at this thing. I mean, you know, to put this, I was an evangelist. So it really, you know, I don't know. I don't know if I'm the best qualified person to say how many people were there, but evangelistically or evangelistically, however you want to talk about it. But there was a lot of, there was, I've been in more people than I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 00:04:44 And that, that is an understatement for me. I have been, I have been a part of crusades, literally on four continents. I've been in Rinehart bond stuff. I've been in stuff. I can't say wherever we go. Some of them were illegal, but I've been, I have been in masses of people before in great masses of people before. And I have never in my life, 46 years old, I have never in my life seen that many people. And the other thing too, of unified heart, they were some of the most unified on purpose in why they were there. People that I've ever seen
Speaker 1 00:05:15 You get out of the subway. We walked down the street, remember we turned, left around the road. We kind of knew where we were going, but we didn't really know, but we knew we had to be in this general area. And there were just all just really nice people. I mean, thousands and thousands and thousands of people you'd pass. Like, you know, there's like a grandma, stropped her glove. I bend over, picked it up. She was like, Oh, thank you. I could kiss you or something like that. We're like, I love you. You're so nice. And like, but I saw that like a hundred times, like people drop stuff. Oh, ma'am sir. You know, like people were just being super into. I probably could have just dropped my wallet or off my,
Speaker 2 00:05:50 I see someone dropping. Somebody actually dropped those people were there. I seen someone actually driving the hardworking Americans. It was, these were the people. And so let me just say this to get this out of the way. Let's say it was a million, maybe I'm off, but let's say it was a million people of that million people. Like I would guarantee you that you want anyone that was in that crowd to be your neighbor. That's somebody that you want to be your neighbor. Somebody who's going to watch out for your property, making sure nobody does bad stuff to it. They're going to be people that are genuinely trying to be good. Good wives, good husbands, good mothers, good fathers. There are probably people that work hard at work. There are probably people that, that maintain their life, maintain the lifestyle. I'm saying w we were with a million people. I even at one point I even turned to, to Badger Brian. And I said, bro, if we had a million Christians in one place, I don't think they would be this kind
Speaker 1 00:06:47 Right now at the same time. I do remember. And I, and at the same time, we're not saying that everybody there was a Christian, right? We're not, we're not saying that that's one of the false ideas of this Trump thing is that they're all labeled as Christians. And they're all, you know, that's kind of false. Not every Trump supporters like a Christian. They probably have more of a God-fearing right. More of a, I would say, they'd be more laid back, laid back God, Judeo or mindset, generally moral person. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:07:16 Which you know, and then to be fair, you know, to be a generally moral person, um, doesn't get you a better place in how a generally moral person will send you to hell. There's only one way in, into eternal life. And that is through Jesus. It is through making him, your Lord is bowing, your knee and humility and submission to the fact that he's the only one that can save you. And so I'm not saying that it's okay that these guys are generally more
Speaker 1 00:07:44 That's the crowd we were in
Speaker 2 00:07:45 The point is, is that there there's a thick line between that kind of a crowd versus some of the other, um, political narratives and, and uh, and the media.
Speaker 1 00:07:54 And I honestly, okay, so here's where we're going in this episode, right? Like we want to lay out some more of our experience, kind of like walk you through, almost play by play. We'll see how that all turns out, but here's the fork we're going to hit. The fork is the kingdom address. This we're dressing kingdom issues. And we're addressing it from the perspective of the political realm because vocal Rome makes the laws and affects all of our lives. So you can't ignore politics. You can't ignore that gate. You just can't, you know, we're, we're actually called to take that gate. We're called to actually be the influencers of that gate in the kingdom. So we're going to look at some things that are filled with all kinds of tension. And so what if so, what is God doing? Right. So let's say a president like Biden actually gets in and he takes over on the 20th and he goes full steam ahead as the whole world believes.
Speaker 1 00:08:46 So what's that narrative like for the kingdom? What could happen? The other narrative is there's a whole group of people out there. I'm not one, I haven't been deep in this, this thing called Anon or, you know, but there's a whole like theory, uh, pretty established following, you know, masses and masses of people as people are. And I'll tell you where I learned all this. I've heard of it through the last year or so. And I've heard Q I've heard some of those things, but I I've just got so much going on in my life. I don't have time to go dive into another conspiracy theory or black or if it is or isn't, who knows, I didn't, I didn't have time to investigate that. So I didn't really put a lot of time into it, but the reason why this means something to me is cause I actually made a post the next day after the rally on my Facebook page.
Speaker 1 00:09:31 And I basically kind of talked about, uh, you know, the crowd where you're in and how peaceful it was. And we'll get into those details. I kind of shared my, but I made a statement and this was more of the kingdom address. This kind of falls in the category, the profits were wrong. Point blank. And then the next thing I said was maybe this'll prove to be emotional. Maybe this will just prove to be emotional. Maybe, maybe I'm just tired from the trip. And I just feel a little out of it and down and you know, cause then I started cause I had some people push back on me. Some people call, I had phone calls and like inbox stuff, text messages. I had people going, Oh, you know, you don't believe, I'm sorry that you couldn't believe. And I'm like, no, I'm tired. I just was trying to write it in. I wasn't trying to stir all this up, but I guess you, you know, if you're just reading and not really understanding that, you know, I'm human and I could be tired and you know, you're not giving me the benefit of doubt,
Speaker 2 00:10:18 FYI, gray scopes guys. One of my favorite things about Brian Phillips is his legitimate and real transparency. Like you, you do not ever have to guess where you are or how you stand or what digs back from Ryan Phillips. He's one of the most transparent guys. And I, I think that's a really positive characteristic. So Brian was being legit politics. And the thing is, is that he and I were having this conversation in the truck while we're driving back. And then, you know, he's, he's mad enough to like post it and let the world know, Hey, here's what I'm thinking. And he, you know, he,
Speaker 1 00:10:52 I got some pushback from people that love me and people that love me and people are, Oh, we'll think so then on the way home, I remember making another post. And I said, well, maybe they were right. Maybe not. Right. Like, so we got 12 days to, you know, and, and then all the people kind of pushed back on me like that. And I was kind of funny and I didn't write it for them to like it. I just was like, Hey, I'm tired and I'm going, I'm experienced all of this. And so, so on the one hand, this could be a Biden presidency, administration house, all of the three, the trifecta. Right. Which would be a really interesting dynamic for the kingdom. So we're gonna talk about that a moment. And then the other thing would be this Q thing that Trump does to some type, some type of like biblical Trump card that he's gonna put down.
Speaker 1 00:11:41 And, um, you know, there's literally probably hundreds of thousands of people that believe this. And I look at it and I look at what they're talking about. And I'm like, I don't know that I disbelieve it. I'm like, it's all there. It looks like it all could really be done in. And then when you hear like Trump at the rally, Wednesday, the w the verbiage he's using, he's not, he's, it doesn't seem like he's going anywhere. You know, it's just like, there's just so many things like that. Right. So, so anyway, that's the fork in the road that we're going to kind of be addressing as we go through the rest of this time. But so, so we're at the rally. I mean, I think we went off, we walked for a little while. Then we came back cause there was a couple of preliminary speakers and then the crowd just swelled, right? Oh my gosh. The crowd just like ramped up. When Trump came,
Speaker 2 00:12:28 When we walked up on this crowd, we were literally on the edge of it. Cause I'm like, man, I'm not, I'm not feeling this whole, like, you know, elbow to elbow, shoulder to shoulder thing. And
Speaker 1 00:12:38 We just off the monument right there,
Speaker 2 00:12:41 We were onto monument on the monument grass. And it was just, it was flags everywhere. We were so easy. It was so far that they had this massive Megatron screen set up so everybody could see what was going on in the state. And because we weren't, and we weren't even in the actual part where Trump was going,
Speaker 1 00:13:00 Well, you think he was part of the a hundred, 200 yards.
Speaker 2 00:13:03 He was probably another quarter of a mile away. And that entire area was packed with people. And so here we are. So anyway, I was saying like, we walked up and we just stayed on their friends. Cause I didn't want to be able to elbowed, you know, none of it, you know, me and Brian are we aren't those kinds of guys like to stand that way and act that way. So anyway, we're on the fringe and literally within like 20 minutes, I remember turning around and I'm like, dude, we're in the middle of the crowd, the crowd swelled around us so far that it was as far as the IPC, we went from the fringe to 20 minutes later being in the center of whatever mass of people that we were in. And I'm saying that the reason we're saying that is because there were so many people and they just kept coming and coming that this time that we're talking about, when we walked away, we walked 20, 25 blocks off of the, off of the national mall area.
Speaker 2 00:13:52 And we were out there and we seen streams of people, both ways, like people that were coming, people that were going piles of 10 piles of five piles of 20 and they were margin and they were going and people everywhere. So it wasn't just the pictures that you see that will encapsulate the number of people. Because in that picture, who knows how many tens of thousands of people had already left? How many tens of thousand people that hadn't come yet? How many tens of thousands of people that were eating breakfast? Because they were because it was stinking cold. It was cold. It was cold. I mean the wind chill, it was cloudy. Wind. Yeah. The wind was
Speaker 1 00:14:25 He's in the forties at times, but that was cut. And so
Speaker 2 00:14:29 Saying is like, even if you seen the picture, I don't know if I believe what Brian and Steve were saying, they're just, I'm telling you, like, you don't know the entire dynamic of being boots on the ground. There was more people than I'd ever seen in my life. And it was legit. And like Brian said, these were, these were generally good people. These are good partners. They came right. They came because they believe in our entire day
Speaker 1 00:14:52 And we'll get into what happened to the Capitol a little bit. But the entirety of the entire day, I never saw one fight. I never saw one brick thrown. I never saw a water bottle toss. I never saw, I mean, nothing never saw one business vandalized. I never saw it. There was no windows.
Speaker 2 00:15:10 I seen people actually in that kind of stuff like there, I actually watched people that went up well and I was one of them. I went up to the police officers and I was saying, Hey, you know, we appreciate you. You know, I know that there's a crowd here. And I know there's a lot of hatred in the, in, in, in the area and a lot of animosity. And I said, you know, one of the things I want you to understand is like, you know, some of these people have been boiling for a long time. Like we're losing our Republic, we're losing, um, things that we believe in our core values about what our nation is supposed to stand for. And I get it that they're probably being ignorant or inventory. And they're venting that on you. I said, but I want to come up to you.
Speaker 2 00:15:45 And I want you to know that we appreciate you. I've spoke. I've spoken at multiple back, the blue rallies. You know, I believe in our, in our law enforcement, I believe in laws, I'm a law abiding citizen. Um, I believe in, in the rule of law and the constitution. And so these are things that are core values to who we are. And I honestly believe that it was core values to who they are, but man, there were some people that were just super, uh, overwhelmed, excited, probably overheated in, in their exuberance for their message that they did did and said some stuff that was just probably out of alignment again, not they didn't burn down. So I'm saying well to backfill Brian, like it wasn't that they were like setting cars on fire and shooting cops in the street and call them, you know,
Speaker 1 00:16:28 At the rally. Right. So we've got, let's just say a million ish people there while I'm on the field. My wife texts me. Well, this isn't even on the news. Oh, I'm shocked. Right? No news media, all that we'll, we'll we'll feature these types of rallies. And so when Trump gets up to speak never one time, did he, did he talk from anger or he never, he never passed on like any type of like fire to the crowd, right? Nope. He never lit a fire under the crowd. He was just typical Trump. Well, and then he might say, well, that is lighting a fire. Right. Like I get it. Right. But he never was like, go down there and just kind of storm the castle. He never, one time said that he was, it was very peaceful. He basically highlighted the fact that in this, this goes to the cue crowd, right?
Speaker 1 00:17:20 Like, so he highlights this fact, he says, um, you know, he's talking and the election was stolen. So they claim, they have proof of that. You know, I'm not endorsing one way or they not necessarily on this podcast or whatever, but that's what he's claiming. And I probably more believe that way, you know, that they're okay. There's probably, I believe more of that than I do that. It was just, I believe so he, and he's trusting that he's like, Hey, these elections can't be stolen. And the integrity of this and that. And you know, he's talking about how, um, if Pence just does the right thing, you know, he can save us if he just does the right thing. And you know, we had discussed, we don't really know that he could do the right thing. My interpretation, as far as the constitution goes, that he could not,
Speaker 2 00:18:11 There wasn't anything really Pence could do. That was my goal
Speaker 1 00:18:13 At the rally. Trump has kind of like painting this picture and he does what Trump does. And he goes into every little corridor of the story. You need this guy and that guy in this state, in this town, in Georgia in the sentence and you know, all this stuff, the, you know, the stealing of, uh, you know, it was basically the rally was called stop the steel. So he's addressing that as his main point. We'll never one time, you know, he was very clear. We will not let this happen. Okay. Well, how are you going to do that if you're leaving. Right. Right. I mean, that were, that's where the cures are like, dude, and this is way deeper. This goes, you know, we got all the evidence and they could be right. Like, you know, you look at all their stuff and you're like, dude.
Speaker 1 00:18:52 And if it, and if they, if they are right in the days ahead, it's like, Oh my gosh, this would be biblically Epic. What could happen in this country? So, so there, you know, th there, we have it, right? So we're experiencing this, this great Trump speech straight Trump rally. Great. These nice people. They're pretty nice. I mean, I didn't see any, you know, any, I didn't see any, there was no fighting meanness. There was no, like crowd was completely, at one time a dog was running and three or four people went and got the dog and held it and found the owner, gave it some water, dude know.
Speaker 2 00:19:25 And I mean, there was signs all over the place of, you know, uh, scripture signs. And
Speaker 1 00:19:31 There were people that were one guy that was down there and they were leading people to the Lord, the whole sound system on a cart. Yup. Blasting music, preaching the gospel, holding up signs that say Jesus saves. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:19:43 Yeah. There was, there was, there was, there was massive pro-life movements that were there. There was, I mean,
Speaker 1 00:19:49 I mean, you gave out a lot of your pocket amendments pocket constitution, our constitution, I gave out a ton of those little cards
Speaker 2 00:19:57 And people were like, Oh, okay, thanks.
Speaker 1 00:19:58 I met people there that are going to be on the podcast. I met the guy that runs the Patriot party podcast. Right? Like we're talking about collaborating together. I was like, let's, let's do something together. And we met a couple
Speaker 2 00:20:09 Of executives from AFA. I remember
Speaker 1 00:20:11 Once we met those posters, those two older guys called he's like, you run gray SOPs. He runs something with grace in the tile, like, you know, and so he's already been texting me. It's like, it's wild, man. Like, there's this good God connections at this thing. And yeah.
Speaker 2 00:20:26 And that the, so the thing is, is that, that that is a crowd that any, any legitimate Patriot, if you love your country, you would have been very comfortable in that crowd. Even if you didn't necessarily believe in all of the legislative things that everybody else believes in. You know, when you get the legislation, you know, the opinions in the room about legislation are as varied as the opinions in the room of a bunch of Christians about eschatology. I mean, you got two, you got two people in the room. They're going to have different views of legislation. You got two Christians in the room, we've got different views of eschatology. It's just the way it is. But what I'm saying is if you love the country, if you love this country, if you love God, if you loved your neighbor, you would have been very welcome and warmed in that Congress. And the, in that group of people in that crowd, you would have fit in, you would have felt in place. Right? And so the kind of, one of the points is that you w from boots on the ground, Brian Phillips, Steve castle boots on the ground to pastors, right?
Speaker 1 00:21:27 25 miles of walking on Wenzhou to maybe a letter, we'll just call it 11,
Speaker 2 00:21:33 Two pastors that have committed their lives to loving God, loving their neighbor and telling the truth. So that's what you got. You got two guys on his podcasts who love, God, love their neighbor and tell the truth. And we are here to tell you about what happened. That the news portrayed about what that gathering was is absolutely a lie. Absolutely
Speaker 1 00:21:54 Blaming Trump, acting like he went down, you know, sent that crowd down there. Dude, we went and got some lunch. It's it's, he's ending his, his, his speech we're heading out. You know, as he's kind of closing it down, we walked what like 10 blocks, maybe, maybe less than that, to this, this great little Tavern, you could only eat outside. Cause all these COVID COVID it's freezing out there. And it was Bailey said, one little heater outside. We could get a little warm, but I literally was, they had great food, by the way,
Speaker 2 00:22:27 They had great food, but I was literally eating my lunch with my card Hart hoodie up. And my gloves on, I was eating my lunch with my gloves.
Speaker 1 00:22:35 So sat outside the one table, we could sit, it was had these two older guys at it. And they were the pastors that we met, like ministry guys, like business leaders. It was, they were cool guys. And so we're w so what we're saying is this, this was a peaceful thing. And Trump, at the end, he was like, Hey, get, go walk down by the Capitol. Let them hear your voice. That's kind of how that's all he said, like, let them hear your voice. Maybe pencil come through for us. This is what it kept saying. And then all of a sudden we're at lunch and my wife's texting me, like, what's going on with the Capitol? I'm like, I don't know what's going on in the cab. We're not even Tom's line bombed by his daughter. And like, you know, we're looking it up online and we're like, well, we've, we still took another, maybe 15 minutes. We finished our lunch. And then we started heading that way,
Speaker 2 00:23:16 Crazy sirens. And then it was literally like 30 police cars, Patty wagon, national guard. Oh my gosh. I mean, they could have killed people themselves. Like they were just on a race to get down to the Capitol, which is probably about when the stuff went down. And the, the point of what I'm saying is not one of those people that perpetrated the lawlessness on the Capitol, came to DC with the heart and the intentions, the majority of that crowd came with. I'm not saying that there weren't good people that might've got sucked into some stuff, because there is, there is definitely a crowd mentality, a mob mentality,
Speaker 1 00:23:56 You know, you're tired, you're cold and that's not making an excuse. You still did the wrong thing. Right. But you can get sucked into the energy and emotion. Yep. So like, for example, you still should get in trouble. Right? Like, sorry, I got sucked into the emotion of it. Well, you still do the wrong, right?
Speaker 2 00:24:10 Yeah. I'm doing the wrong thing. You're doing the wrong thing. Um, you know, and that's one of the things that we started out this podcast, like, you know, Brian and I don't physically feel like being here and doing this right now, but it doesn't matter how we feel we're going to do the right thing. The right thing is to communicate with you guys and let you know what happened. And so like, for example, the gal that was killed inside the Capitol, um, and by all reports, and I'm not, I'm not super deep into the rabbit holes, but by all reports, this was a great gal, a veteran did Ford tours of service or something like that was loved, loved the country, loved the president. And so then people are saying, well, why was she in there? Well, I don't know, I wasn't with her, but I can tell you that there is something that takes place in a crowd or in a mob that there are people literally sending there to insight and to do terrible things.
Speaker 2 00:24:54 And sometimes people get caught up in it. I watched people that, that I didn't, uh, that probably in a different situation, wouldn't have violated morality in their own lives, in their own hearts, except that they were in a crowd. Like probably everyone that's listening to this. You could probably look at some of the most terrible mistakes you made in your life. It's because there was a bunch of pressure on people around you. Yeah. And so I don't know why she was in there. I don't know what was going on. I can tell you that that crowd was not legitimately represented by what the media has told them.
Speaker 1 00:25:28 And I, and I'll say this right now. Right. We already saw the aftermath videos and the photos. So we saw the guy with the Viking helmet on, in, in, you know, the aftermath of the photo shoots. Yeah. We'll get into this right. The photo. So we're walking up on the Capitol. We walked up all the way up to the steps. Nobody was vandalizing the outside and burning or taking a hammer and busting away at the ivory. You know, the stone, all the stonework. Nobody was like, they weren't th there was nothing like maybe, I mean, I couldn't see everybody, but what I did see, I didn't see any, we all stood there, huddled together, crammed in super cold, sing, amazing grace chanted things. Like we,
Speaker 2 00:26:09 We, the people, we, the people,
Speaker 1 00:26:13 It was just a expression. Now I'll say this saying the national crowd was a mob. Like they've been painted to her. If they were terrorist, like this whole rallies, they were terrorists. And they were mob like the whole group of people that were on the, that were on that, like where they're doing to do their own arbitration, the scaffolding and the steerers, there, there would have been nothing you could do to stop. Oh God, no. That crowd from going in the, and literally wreaking havoc on the whole place. That was it, a burn, the whole thing down, just, just that group of people you want to say, mob terror, like wouldn't a terrorist group. Do that. When a terrorist group go in and like blow the place up, wouldn't a mob group. Be like, you know, that there was
Speaker 2 00:26:59 Nothing like the crowd that was there, probably 10,000 people that was with us there, 10,000 people could have burnt the Capitol to the ground. There was more like there's only two, there's only 2,800 Capitol police and, uh, DC beliefs and guardsmen. I just read talking. There was 2,800 policemen. And so there was
Speaker 1 00:27:22 The crowd that we saw moving forward was the crowd that was getting on the scaffolding, not going inside the Capitol. Right. You know why? Because we saw the aftermath videos, the crowd that got led into the scaffold, into the actual capital, the crowd that got came into the Capitol, the evildoers, if you will,
Speaker 2 00:27:37 Brian's words, the crowd that was let, they were let in, they didn't bus. They were let in.
Speaker 1 00:27:43 They, they were led in, they were led in led to the right place. You can see all the videos. And then the picture they got me, right. There's this picture of the guy in the biking and the red, white, and blue face, no shirt. There's like three or four photographers in the same picture. And I'm like, okay. So you want to see your own soul afraid for your life. Right? You're so fearful that you have three or four photographers, snapping photos, and you're posing in there. They're not moving. You know, it's not like these, these photographers are running and taking like backward shots. They're standing there like you're in a stinkin photo shoot.
Speaker 2 00:28:18 Yeah. It was literally posing for borough,
Speaker 1 00:28:22 Front doing the, we, the people just having some fun, right. Making our voices heard nothing evil or destructive. And then we're like, well, why don't we go around to the back entrance? Which the worst part about that was the wind was stronger back there.
Speaker 2 00:28:37 Right? It was colder. The crowd
Speaker 1 00:28:39 Heat was way better. But so we go around to the back, we're there for like, I don't know, 15 minutes, the guy with the Viking helmet that we don't know what the point is. Like the main photo shoot guy comes out
Speaker 2 00:28:50 Of the back door, comes
Speaker 1 00:28:53 Down the whatever hundred stairs that are there passes 40, 50 law enforcement officers comes right up within just inches of us. We hear a mumbling about
Speaker 2 00:29:06 Okay. And cold. And that's one of the things that I brought him even told him like, Hey, idiot, put your shirt on her. Like, you know, he, literally, I talked to her in front of us. I'm like, I'm like, what is your play here? He walked out the back door. This is the guy in the photo. Didn't get arrested. Nope.
Speaker 1 00:29:22 Blows my mind, dude. So we're there boots on the ground. And then to watch the news and to see that were, this was a terrorist rally. It's all Trump's fault, dude. This was a set-up.
Speaker 2 00:29:33 Yeah. And that's the thing like here, we are telling you that we were literally frozen like Brian and I and were, and were stout guys in the band that back
Speaker 1 00:29:42 Door corridor, the wind was piercing.
Speaker 2 00:29:45 Cutting. You. I'm standing there. Literally. I have a long sleeve shirt of a gray SOPs hoodie. I got a card, heart, tick lined, um, you know, work jacket on with a hood on, with a stocking hat on with my hoodie, for my grace hops, with my gloves on I'm freaking freezing. And so Viking guy who doesn't even own a shirt is supposedly supposedly a part of the Trump rally. Come on now. He didn't stand out there. No, there ain't no way he was outside of hours and longer than 10 minutes without his nipples fall.
Speaker 1 00:30:16 So what did he do inside the Capitol? He had the photo shoot. Would he go have a good steak meal? Cause there was, there was a good amount of time because by the time we got there, he, when we got the fullest two hours, my wife tells me and Tom, you know,
Speaker 2 00:30:30 It was, it was already going to happen. Right. All that stuff already held while we were still eating lunch. Some the lady was already shot by then. I was
Speaker 1 00:30:38 Assuming, okay. I was assuming we're going to come up on a capital picture of people, literally just bomb rushing, like going through the front door, like an unrelenting unstoppable force. Right? Like that's what I thought we were doing
Speaker 2 00:30:54 Old fashioned castle, uh, you know, melee, like they're trying to blow down the wall in front of the moat, you know, like grabbing telephone poles and busting out with no, they were singing, God bless America. And we were chanting the national Anthem. And we were like, we, we said the pledge of allegiance to the flag over the loudspeaker of the entire crowd did it. And they were, so what happened inside the Capitol?
Speaker 1 00:31:18 If that wasn't a mob, we were in it, wasn't a group of terrorists. It wasn't a terrorist rally. This wasn't Trump, Trump condemned, all of it. Right. And so whoever you want to say, this group, that group set up, something was going on. I mean, there was something dark going on. There was, there were certain people, they were just kind of peppered, uh, throughout this timeframe where like, even at the back, I remember that one guy that had like, he had, like, he was all tacked out and he had like on the back of his, his, uh, plate carrier, it said, uh, media, please don't shoot. And they had a GoPro where you're not the media with a GoPro and he didn't even have a crew. And he had plates and he had his actual, like a war helmet on like a fighting helmet. And that was the other thing I said to him. He was like yelling at the caps like, Oh, we know where you live. We're going to kill your family. I'm like, dude, what are you doing? I'm like to fight you. Right.
Speaker 2 00:32:11 That's what I'm saying. Like I literally multiple times break them down. I know I literally multiple times got in between some of the quote, unquote as insane Trump protesters, quote unquote, I say, and the police where I literally said, dude, shut up like these, these are our neighbors, these police officers. These are our neighbors. Like they're like, they're not some, you know, some radical, uh, usage of the government to terrorize the servery.
Speaker 1 00:32:36 The police were in on the Viking dude or whatever who were led in. There were some of them on the, there, it just was. But the media doesn't want to cover that doesn't fit their propaganda agenda. So here's the thing. Right? So it's like you only got dirty. When was the last time Steve, that you were at a terrorist rally. And when was the last time you were at a mob rally. Okay. Mobs and terrorists. When the, uh, local broadcasting system emergency broadcasting system comes across from the mirror of the DC mirror and says curfew 6:00 PM for the DC area. Right. Curfew get outta here. Right? Well at five, literally 35 40. There was barely anybody around me. It was basically, okay. So when's the last time did the terrorist go home? When he told them to leave? When's the last time the mob, right?
Speaker 1 00:33:31 Like we just, it blows my mind. Like we all left it by six o'clock. There was like nobody at the Capitol building right now. When we left, there was no fights, no bricks being thrown, no water bottles. I never saw one police officer now. And I didn't see all of them, but I saw a lot of them, but I didn't see any of them getting assaulted or throwing stuff at, and that they got yelled at there's some, there was some idiots they're doing stupid stuff. Whether they're Trump supporters or not, I don't care, whatever there, they didn't feel like they were, but whatever. But it's one of those things. It was so peaceful. We all even left at six. Yep. Everybody left six. O'clock nothing. I didn't see anything get burned. I didn't see any businesses get vandalized. I didn't see, remember the BLM footage, the targets, the ATM's like just to remember the politicians that would speak into it, like you should be more violent and we should keep this up. I mean, like the list goes on and on. Like nobody did that from the report. It blows my mind the way
Speaker 2 00:34:26 Both Brian and I are concealed carry guys. And you know, one of the things that we talk about, any, any concealed carry guy will say this, this is totally normal in DC. No, we did not. We did not decide airy in DC just to be clear. Um, w one of the things that cracks us up is that we'll be somewhere like we'll walk into a bank and they got 20 stickers on the door that says you're not allowed to carry your weapon into the bank. And I'm thinking like the only reason you put this sign up was to encourage a bank robber to come here because I'm a concealed carry guy, which means that I'm going to follow the law. I legally went and went through, um, the 18 hours of classroom paid, uh, almost $500 plus, plus you got to invest in the weapon and do all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 00:35:13 And you got to wait for all. You gotta do all these background checks and all this kind of stuff. So I went through all that process. So I could legally, you could be a good carry. So I could be a good law abiding citizen and carry my constitutional weapon though, the legal way. So when you see this, don't bring your, your, your legal firearm into our premises. Like, don't bring it. The only thing that does is encourage law breakers as to what's going on in that building. You just told every bank robber that if you want to go Rob a bank, this bank will not have any armed citizens in it. So if you want to come in here and shoot up the place, nobody's going to shoot back. So what I'm saying is when they put out this curfew thing, why would you put out the curfew? If we were just a bunch of lawless, angry, burned the Capitol down, why put out the curfew and was you knew that we were lawful people. And when you put out the curfew, when it turned six o'clock, we were going to,
Speaker 1 00:36:09 And what happened with the BLM protest? When the curfews came, that's when the stuff really started happening, right? I mean, and I'm not, I'm not here to say I'm not here to be like crazy pop political guy. I'm not trying to turn gray SOPs into like some kind of news reporting organization. We just are two guys that are kingdom minded, uh, we're church leaders. We're empowering people. And we just want to talk about our experience. That's all this is. It's not going to be like a continuation of like, you know, three more episodes on there's. No, I mean, we just want to talk about what we saw and how crazy, like, if I wasn't there, you know, and I heard like, okay, well, like I know that guy and he, wow, man, that's interesting. It's totally different than what the news is saying. And, you know, it was just kind of like I was there, you know, and think about everybody left. I know it, it was, it was over with, it was like, there was no,
Speaker 2 00:37:01 And there ain't nobody there now pull up the live picture of the, of the,
Speaker 1 00:37:06 Well, go on, on our way home. I mean, there was like droves of people from Trump supporters and just going home. I mean, so, so from here, yeah. Let's yeah.
Speaker 2 00:37:15 Yeah. So I want to transition, so let me give you the, let me give you the kingdom, uh, kind of the perspective here, you know, this is a state of the kingdom, is that there is a ton of information that you're being fed nonstop on purpose by people that don't want you to believe the truth. And this is a prime example of that specific thing is that the, you are being inundated on a regular basis of people that are trying to dissuade you or dissuade you from the kingdom or persuade you into darkness nonstop all the time. There are people telling you like, well, Hey, if you want to be, you know, a good husband, then you need to do all this terrible stuff. This is what a good husband does. You know, grab your, your woman by the throat. You know, she needs a strong man telling her what to do and pushing her around.
Speaker 2 00:38:07 You're going to be a good parent, you know, buy your kids, all the toys that they want, give them video games and let them hang out in the basement for 40 hours. Like there is a ton of this false information that is being projected to you. That it's true. And we're here to tell you, like, as this is an example of how often we get sucked into this, well, this is what the news said. This is what the TV show says. So this is how I'm supposed to guide my life and be successful and proper, right? Absolutely not. The kingdom has a completely different perspective. And it's already been settled by the King many, many, many decades ago that he told us the truth. This is how the kingdom works. This is not how it works. You need to put yourself into the,
Speaker 1 00:38:49 Yeah. So we're looking at, as we kind of close out, our closing dialogue is going to be focusing on. So say Biden takes it and we know strong suffering, persecution becoming for the church, say this skew stuffs. Right. And say the profits were right. And all of a sudden, some Epic biblical, like, cause that would, that would be, to me, it would be like, it would be like restoring the Republic, like Epic amounts of hope, like historic never been done before. Right? Like empire is normally die within 250 years. And we've got all the, you know, as far as the attack on marriage, the attack on gender, the tech on all those, all those attacks, abortion, all that stuff is ghost is what tears societies apart. Yep. And we become undone and we're right there at the brink of it. All right. So, so if so, what can what's the kingdom look like under bite them?
Speaker 1 00:39:46 What's the kingdom look like under this thing? So the one thing I'm passionate about is empowering that we're live upright, empowering men to, to be godly, to be, to be strong, to be empowered by grace, to build a band of brothers. That's what I'm passionate about. I want to see this culture that recruiting grace ops kind of take on, you know, kind of hit the country and get someone going, Oh man, his what's his gray soft stuff. What's this all about? And I want to be in the operations of God's grace. And I want to, I want to live that way. I want to live upright and godly. And I want to, what does that five star charge? And I want to, I want to get my life, the five surcharges in something you master it's a plumb line is something that you've returned to some.
Speaker 1 00:40:22 Oh yeah. Okay. I got it, man. I get a, bump it up here and there and said, we're not saying, Hey, you got to perform the rest of your life. But it's just those things where we're, we're constantly growing and maturing until the end of our day, you know? And that's what we ought to be doing. So I look at the great awakening. I want to see this was like a billion people coming into the kingdom. Billions. So harvest, that's been prophesied a few times. I mean, in whether that's all right or wrong, I'm not here to even kind of dissect all that. It's just, what, what does it look like? So would it be better if it was Biden and suffering and persecution and hard times, would that really awakened the church? Yeah, it would. If the Q stuff's right. And biblical
Speaker 2 00:41:07 Historic republics,
Speaker 1 00:41:09 Would that awaken the church? I think so. Absolutely. I think so. I mean, I think it would. I think, so
Speaker 2 00:41:16 This is basically where we're at. Like we're, we're on purpose making, you know, that there is no way that God loses
Speaker 1 00:41:24 And we don't know which way to go. Right. We know which way God's going to go. And it's a kingdom way
Speaker 2 00:41:29 Just before we were shooting this, like Brian and I were talking about this for an hour. Like we literally, you know, we just spent,
Speaker 1 00:41:35 Chicago has been recording.
Speaker 2 00:41:39 We just spent 14 hours in a truck talking about this stuff and we get together to shoot this bad guys. And we're like, we can't stop talking about it because we're so passionate about the kingdom. And the, the thing is, is that obviously we have opinions. We would, there's ways that we desire this scene to go, but it doesn't matter. Like if, if Biden wins, then God wins. If Trump wins, God wins because the kingdom is not shaken by any of these natural political systems. And if you're in the kingdom and a lot of people don't get this, you are concurrently a citizen. You can currently live in two kingdoms in the spirit. Galatians one seven says that we have been translated out of the kingdom of darkness, into the kingdom of the son of his love. So we are on the inside in our spirit, man, we have been transferred into the kingdom of God. You are in the kingdom of God, but then you have this natural body and you have a soul that lives concurrently as a citizen of the United States or whatever country you're in. You're physically a part of the United States and you're spiritual, right? And we're supposed to be here representing the real kingdom.
Speaker 1 00:42:43 We're the alien, we're the, we're the legal.
Speaker 2 00:42:48 And so the thing is, is that it doesn't matter how this thing goes down. What we're trying to do is to let you know that your hope should never, ever, ever be in some political system. If your hope is in the Republicans, you got issues. If your hope is in the, in the Democrats, you got issues. If your hope is in any political system, you got issues. Bed is not where your hope should come from. Your hopes should come from the fact that there is a King and his kingdom is going rain without end. It's his, of his government. There shall be.
Speaker 1 00:43:18 And, and at the same time in that, what you're laying out there, we have to be of the energy. Cause we've talked about this before we hit record, but we talked about faith without works is dead. That's why we went to DC. We didn't wanna just pray for our country from here. And I, and I, you know, and a lot of people called me and actually said, thanks for going. You know, you were representing me. And I had business leaders. I had people and the leaders, same thing, you know, things were going like, okay, cool. I didn't know I was representing all of you, but I, he did. Right? Like I like, you know, we should take up an offer. I mean, people know you and it's like, you have to say, you know, who wants to the gas and the hotels.
Speaker 1 00:43:55 Um, but we want to look at the faith without works is dead. So one of the works of action that we're supposed to be about as the kingdom, people is actually taking the gate over our enemies. God said that to Abraham, he said, your offspring shall possess the gate of their enemies. So the people who hate you, those Gates of influence those seats. If you will like these, these, the political realm, the education realm, the, uh, the business world are the three Gates that we've identified on this podcast. In the past with, uh, Dr. David Robinson, we've talked about these things about we've got engage. The, we got to get busy. So if Biden wins, I still, I'm going to tell believers to get on the school board is let's, we've got to re infiltrate this and you scrubbed as it could be or whatnot. Um, if Trump wins, I'm going to say the same thing, get on a seat, get on in part of the new start, influencing your culture and either doing something with your faith.
Speaker 2 00:44:51 I, and here's the thing that really irks me and I'm just going to be really transparent. Um, but there are so many guys that I see so many guys, so many quote, unquote, Christian guys, that men, they know all the stuff that's going on in the political world and like, Oh my gosh, and this is what's going to happen. If Trump doesn't win and we're gonna turn into socialist Soviet Republic of a, you know, and they're like so engaged with this and her texting me and her and their messaging and their Facebook feed is lined up with this stuff. And there are so like concerned about the direction of our country and their marriages are falling apart, right? And their children are scattered, smothered covered and they got addiction problems. And they got, you know, their minds are just topsy turvy. They, they have no legitimate internal directions. And it's so it's so hurts me to my core that there, so this, this passionate and engaged in this political thing, and they're missing the point, the whole point as to why Brian and I are trying to encourage people into conservative values is because there's a benefit to your life. If you live God's way, if you, if you believe God's word and you interact with it in your life, in your marriage, in your finances, in your health, it's going to be better.
Speaker 1 00:46:10 You should be a spiritual man. You should be a spiritual person. I mean, you should know the living God. So let's say your science kind of cut all that out of our lives.
Speaker 2 00:46:19 You're super crazy Trump guy. And so let's say you, this happens and Trump gets back into office and then you get divorced or your kids end up in drugs and addiction and they end up homeless. Or you're you, you, something terrible goes on. Like, what's the point? So congratulation, your president's in office and your life's a mess. Like this is the point of what we're getting to my marriage, my life,
Speaker 1 00:46:48 My spiritual health,
Speaker 2 00:46:50 My future, my hope is in Jesus Christ. And it gets in the way in the office. If Biden gets into office, it doesn't change. If Trump's in office, it doesn't change. My hope is firmly and rooted completely in the rock.
Speaker 1 00:47:09 And on that, I'm going to speak right to the heart of a matter. That kind of annoys me a little bit in the Trump, Trump culture, this whole pro country culture. And I get it, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I would say I'm patriotic and constitutional. I get it. But this whole God family country, or how what's the word is that right? Our guy country, I can't remember the order, but, but they throw the guy thing out there. Like it's like there. And, and, and, and I, I give them some credit, right? Like they're trying to be somewhat God ordain oriented, but they missed the point. You know, you missed the point when you're just tipping your hat to God. And, um, there there's this, that that's one of the things for me is like, let's get in tune with what it actually means to know, to know God, you know, what does it actually mean to actually live a particular way? You know, we should be better students at all this, you know, and that,
Speaker 2 00:48:03 You know it, and that's the, that's kind of the core value of what we're getting to this thing is that, um, there, there's all these different ways that society to Sonia, that life can be lived and all the, all these roads eventually, if you, if you do it right, you'll eventually end up in the right place. And that is not, that is an absolute lie. The, all these good roads have left us to this place in America. Right now we are. I mean, we went through, I mean, if you did not realize what happened in 2020, what in the world hole where you buried in for a year, like the world was thrust into this pandemic and you've got, you got basically race Wars in the street you got and TIVA burning down downtowns of multiple cities. You've got this political war, like it's a straight up war. You've got all this stuff is going on. Like, this is the end result of how society being in control ends. Like at least, at least be grown up to look out your front, your kitchen window and say, um, maybe the solution isn't out there. You ever Lee should look out there and say, this is a mess.
Speaker 1 00:49:14 The last little rant I was on, I literally, I am tired. And I kind of lost a little bit of what I said. I'm glad you took over because I needed to regain my thoughts. And here's my thought, the godfather, like, if, if you look at the Bible and Christ, if you look at it like a self-help movement, which is a lot of how it's packaged, you know, make a better, you better version of you. Self-help self motivation. You know, you got it all wrong. Jesus never promoted self-help and self motivation make a better version of you. He actually said, if you want to follow me, you need to pick up your cross and die to you. You need to actually die to your way of thinking your way of living and learn from me, learn to follow me and be my disciple. And I will be not only your savior, which everybody loves I'm saved by grace.
Speaker 1 00:50:06 Okay, great. But you're also trained by grace. How do you train by grace that Jesus is now Lord of your life. So w you know, it depends on how you look all this stuff. And like, you know, we were talking earlier and it was a big topic, and I don't really plan on, spend a lot of time talking about it, but I struggle with the current biblical view of just rapture, you know, struggled with the whole, you know, you're just going to disappear. And I mean, I don't want to go down the rabbit hole a lot. I struggle with it. Like I have for years. Like, I don't know that it'll happen that way. You know, this whole, it, it, to me, it's, I, there's a story that I had heard from some biblical studies, more of an Eastern mindset, more of a messianic Jew Judaism type thinking way of thinking was there was a, an ancient story and I'm going to totally blow all the details out on this.
Speaker 1 00:50:57 But it was the essence of it was, there was a town that got destroyed by something and a King had come and left the resources for that town to be rebuilt. He left, he went away, the people got busy, working faith without works is dead. You know, it's a true story, actually. And then the King Archie had returned and they were looking for the King and all these, all these ways, the language in, in first Thessalonians, the way it's written now about where people get rational language is actually more about this King returning to this town. And the people greeting him at the gate and actually showing the King what they had done with his, what he had provided. And I, that's more, my version of rapture, like Jesus is returning. I believe he's returning to Zion. And when he comes back, it's going to be like, what did, what did you do with my salvation? Would you do the power? And the might've might've mind
Speaker 2 00:51:45 Whether you agree with the Brian's,
Speaker 1 00:51:47 But you know, you told him earlier, I just kind of speak it. Like it is. That's kind of what I do, right? Like, I guess I just ticked off half the, if you're, Oh, what do you mean? The rapture? Like, this is what you get. What about that book series? What's that you get on Gracie hind. When, when Brian is tired, this is what you ended up getting. You get the theological episode listens. I go up, right? I have no, I have no, uh, no way of holding. Here's the thing,
Speaker 2 00:52:13 Whether you believe in that eschalots logical viewpoint or not, the reality is, is that you will never get away from the scriptures that Jesus himself uttered that says that we are going to be accountable for what our lives look like, that we are going to be, you know, some people are going to be in charge of zero cities, some people in charge of five cities, some people in charge of 10, and this was over and over and over. And what Jesus said that we're going to have rewards, or we are not based upon how we live this life. Did we occupy until he returned? Did we do the great commission? Did we keep the simple Druze of what he has asked us to do on this planet or not? You know, here's the thing. And this kind of goes back to where Brian was. Was, did you, are you adding just a little Jesus to your life?
Speaker 2 00:53:01 Are you adding just a little godliness to your life? Are you you a random dude out there? Are you cooking the cake? Are you baking the cake of your life? And Jesus has one of the ingredients, which makes you the Baker and then Jesus, some tool to be used by you. And if that's where you at, if that's where you're at, then you are failing. And I promise you that you going to cook a flop and it's going to taste terrible, and it's going to kill you. But if you understand that you are not in charge of being the Baker of your life, you're in charge of being part of the ingredients of the kingdom. So we started off, this is the state of the kingdom. So the state of the kingdom is the state of view. Where are you at? How healthy are you?
Speaker 2 00:53:46 Or do you really have the King as your King? Are you really searching after his dominion? Which is where the word kingdom comes from. It's the King's dominion. Does the King have dominion in your heart? Does he have dominion in your marriage? Does he have dominion in your parenting? Is he in charge of your finances? Is he in charge of your language and the way that you think your thought life or not? Are you cooking this cake of your own life? And you're adding a little Jesus, a little self-help of Jesus, or have you actually bowed your knees and come to the end,
Speaker 1 00:54:19 Man, it's not easy. People think, Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 00:54:22 And, and like, and like, Brian just floated down. Yeah. Brian, just quote Jesus, saying that you got to do this daily. Like you got to wake up tomorrow and say today I have a King and it's not about me. It's about what he needs done. And I'm going to seek first, the King and his kingdom. And then he's going to take care of all the needs of my life. Are you doing that tomorrow? Are you doing,
Speaker 1 00:54:45 And I believe as you're even discussing, like God gave everybody a gift and it's not about, I always tell people, you won't find the true, complete version of your gift until you understand how it fits in the plurality of his kingdom, into his people. It's not just about you and you alone and you, you and God, I mean, that's kind of a, you know, kind of a work view again, you know, you go back to the ancient day, um, the gifts. So you're saying all the same stuff I believe. And I'm saying inside of the plurality, right? So King kingdom and priest, you know, the priesthood. And so, and I'll close with this story as far as my part here. Um, when I started a church 14 years ago, I was scared to death of how the heck am I gonna explain the end times to people? I didn't know. I mean, I was an evangelist. I had one message and 10 titles and, uh, you know, that's how I planted a church. I'd never been in a board meeting. I'd never really been in a church much at all and be cool to do my first board meeting at the church. I Googled it like, how do you run a board meeting?
Speaker 1 00:55:53 And I've never done Roberts rules. I've done more of what the Bible does, which you know, and you can make both of them work and they can still be biblical. So I'm not picking on it. But, um, so here's the thing I really got close to this group of people called JC studies, their websites, JC studies.com. It's a messianic Judaism, it's mismanaged Judaic, Christian studies, Judaic Christian studies is where it comes from. And, uh, Dwight Pryor was the founder. And I got the privilege before he passed at being at many of his lectures, many of us we can get away. And week-long, so we're at one of these getaways. He closed with this quick little thing, and he's, he's closing on a Sunday before we take communion together. And he says, now I'm, uh, uh, I'm considered to be very scholarly. I mean, the guy was bright, like the whole co the whole, this like a community of scholars, they built there's really, really brilliant stuff.
Speaker 1 00:56:44 And he says, you know, people are always asking me about my eschatology and the end times, and you know, what are you, what's your take on? You know, let's get past revelation five. You don't want to go on. And what's your, what's your take on that? Your commentary. And he just sat there. He set me free in a million ways that day. And he goes, you know what Jesus said? Um, I will, uh, the father knows a day in the hour. No man knows the deer there, but the father has all that. So that's what Dwight was telling us. He said, Jesus has, he told us, the father has tomorrow figured out. And he taught us. He said, a good Jew. Doesn't dare be, go, go beyond the horizon of today. He's like, so why would we go into tomorrow when all we have is today?
Speaker 1 00:57:24 So then he goes, if that's the case, I don't have to be an expert in the end times or any other category of life. God has all the figured out, but what do I know I'm supposed to be busy with? What do I know? What should I be busy and myself in with today that we know is from God and from Christ. And it's the great commission. I should be busy, active in myself, learning and growing and myself, putting God on display to a broken world that needs to see his light shine, his glory, you know, that's a big church world, right. But they need to see his name glorified in the power of who he is by the way, my life shines forth, all that. So that set me free in a lot of ways like, Oh my gosh, I don't have to have all that figured out.
Speaker 1 00:58:06 God has it figured out. Um, doesn't mean we can't know times and seasons, and it doesn't mean there's not some importance in knowing the biblical prophecies and all that kind of stuff. Right. It's all in the Bible for a reason. It's not like we should just not read that part of the Bible. Right. That would be just as wrong to just like, totally ignore it and take this deep stance of, well, God has it all. I don't even want to look at it. You know, no, we look at it. We, we learn and there's good people out there that steward that message really well. And, uh, and I'm, and I love the houses that do like international suppers stewards. That message really well. So anyway, but that set me free in a lot of ways, as an evangelist turned church planner guy that really didn't have time to go learn all the end times messaging. I was like, you know what, though? I'm really good at the great commission and that's today. So there you go, baby. Right?
Speaker 2 00:58:49 Jesus said, you know, you can't, there's no way that you can change any part of your stature by worrying about it.
Speaker 1 00:58:54 Whether Biden, whether Trump, right. It's all going to be about,
Speaker 2 00:58:57 Say to the King, you know, back to the core value of what we got together today to do is so the what's the state of the kingdom, the state of the kingdom is the state of your own heart. You know, Jesus said in John J R N Luke chapter 17, I think is verse 20, says, where is the kingdom? And he says, it doesn't come by observation because the kingdom of heaven is in you. You know? So what is the state of the kingdom in you, right? What is the state of the kingdom in you? Are you a mess? Well, then you need to get back into the kingdom. Are you, are you all right? Are you okayed? And this PO this political stuffing and bothering you and this pandemic stuff, and you're bothering you or whatever, then, then great praise, God, go get someone and disciple them, right. Go find someone and give them the peace that you have. So the state of the kingdom is the state of your own heart until next time, as we always say, live upright,
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